--- joko/doc/SampleTasks/joko_2003-01.html 2003/01/24 19:04:24 1.16 +++ joko/doc/SampleTasks/joko_2003-01.html 2003/01/26 18:33:55 1.58 @@ -1,4 +1,8 @@ + + joko's sample notes - 2003-01 + +
@@ -373,9 +377,649 @@
    
 o register tutos.netfrag.org
 
+o qpopper with tls, sasl and kerberos5?
+
+o off realtime! the only thing that happens at realtime is MailMiltering.
+   x cvs checkout of joko/doc is done via cron
+   x mail2news-dispatching is now done via cron (would be possible "in realtime" via '.forward'ing the mail *directly* to dispatchmail)
+
+o ctlinnd newgroup nfo.csm (Collaborative System Management)
+
+o make possible:
+  o after "cvs update" make question: "Found new items in "" while scanning. Should i add them to the repository?"
+  o drag & drop arbitrary items out of outlook (.msg, .nws, etc.) - search for them while scanning the fs and sync them 
+     against *original* source. (e.g. 'Message-ID: ')
+
+x CVSSpam -> nfo.log.cvs
+  x su root
+  x cd /etc/mail
+  x nano virtusertable
+  x add line:
+    x cvs-log@netfrag.org             gateway
+  x make virtusertable
+  x su gateway
+  x cd ~
+  x nano .dispatchmailrc
+    x add lines:
+      $self->copy('Newsgate', 'nfo.log.cvs')
+        if $to =~ m/cvs-log/;
+  x exit   (to logout)
+  x cvs update CVSROOT/loginfo
+  x add to CVSROOT/loginfo (to the end of the line starting with '^nfo '):
+    --to cvs-log@netfrag.org
+  x cvs commit -m "+ added new notification target: 'cvs-log@netfrag.org'" CVSROOT/loginfo
+  x tested with some mini-howto
+  x removed '--to joko@netfrag.org --to jonen@netfrag.org --to bareface@netfrag.org --to janosch@netfrag.org '
+     from CVSROOT/loginfo for module 'nfo'
+  x announce this
+    x added to '/etc/news/nnrp.access': 
+      *:Read Post:bareface:bareface:*
+    x /etc/init.d/inn reload
+
+x add 'gateways'-repository to chora
+  x nano /data/www/doc/horde/chora/config/cvsroots.php
+  x add lines:
+    # 2003-01-24, joko
+    $cvsroots['gateway'] = array(
+        'name' => 'gateway',
+        'location' => '/var/lib/cvs/gateway',
+        'title' => "$titlePrefix gateway's CVS Repository",
+        'cvsusers' => $cvsusers,
+    );
+
+x configured Apache for serving news.netfrag.org
+   x cleaned up /data/www/virtual/netfrag/conf/httpd.conf
+      x ./test.conf
+      x comments
+   x /etc/init.d/apache reload
+   x test: http://news.netfrag.org/
+   
+   
+
+o new module for cvs-repository?
+   o nfo/layouts/fs/skel/data2
+   o checkout to /data on quepasa.netfrag.org
+   x done:
+      x su root
+      x cd /var/lib/cvs
+      x mkdir -p nfo/layouts/fs/skel/data
+      x mkdir -p nfo/layouts/fs/skel/data2
+      x mkdir -p nfo/hosts/quepasa.netfrag.org/data
+      x cvs -d /var/lib/cvs checkout -d /data nfo/hosts/quepasa.netfrag.org/data
+        x *mungle everything and commit!*  look at the repository!
+      x add special group with access to this repository: 'rootsrc'
+        x groupadd rootsrc
+        x usermod -G src,staff,rootsrc joko
+        x usermod -G src,staff,rootsrc jonen
+        x usermod -G rootsrc root
+        x change permissions
+          x cd /var/lib/cvs/nfo/
+          x chown -R .rootsrc hosts
+          x chmod -R g+w hosts
+
+    
+x add to system-conf-repository:
+  x /etc/mail
+  x php: cvs-redirect
+  x 
+  
+o extend WCron
+   x show (per-task) if it's currently running or not: provide buttons to (start, stop, pause, resume or cancel a task...)
+   x use as a frontend for administering nfo/libs/perl/ - backend - tasks(???)
+   
+x install Horde/Troll
+   x install troll
+     x cd /home/service/download
+     x mkdir horde
+     x cd horde
+     x wget ftp://ftp.horde.org/pub/troll/troll-0.0.2.tar.gz
+     x tar -xzf troll-0.0.2.tar.gz --directory=/data/www/doc/horde/
+   x configure horde
+     x cd /data/www/doc/horde/
+     x nano config/registry.php
+        x add lines:
+         $this->applications['troll'] = array(
+             'fileroot' => dirname(__FILE__) . '/../troll',
+             'webroot' => $this->applications['horde']['webroot'] . '/troll',
+             'icon' => $this->applications['horde']['webroot'] . '/troll/graphics/troll.gif',
+             'name' => _("News"),
+             'allow_guests' => true,
+             'show' => true
+         );
+      x configure Troll
+        x cd troll/config
+        x conf.php
+          x cp conf.php.dist conf.php
+          x nano conf.php
+          x edit:
+            x $conf['news']['server'] = 'news.netfrag.org';
+            x $conf['news']['mailserver'] = 'mail.netfrag.org';
+        x servers.php
+          x cp servers.php.dist servers.php
+          x add:
+            $servers['netfrag.org'] = array(
+                'name' => 'news.netfrag.org',
+                'server' => 'news.netfrag.org',
+                'port' => 119,
+            );
+        x prefs.php
+          x cp prefs.php.dist prefs.php
+        x html.php
+          x cp html.php.dist html.php
+        x permissions
+          x chmod o+r *.php
+          
+        
+      x test: http://netfrag.org/horde/
+        o another (more bright) skin for horde@netfrag.org!!!
+        
+o Warum nicht überall Horde? Sondern TUTOS?
+   o Horde ist sehr breit angelegt, dafür fehlt es jedoch an vielen Stellen noch ein wenig im Detail.
+   o mittlerweile: mit Hermes & Co.? nochmal ansehen!
+
+o just do automated operations (like cvs commit) only if system is idle
+
+o automagically redirect http://netfrag.org/horde/ to https://netfrag.org/horde/
+  o with an Apache - rewrite-rule?
+  
+x how to map TUTOS-groups to newsgroups?
+  x ctlinnd newgroup nfo.tutos.sysadmin
+  x add dispatching for sysadmin@netfrag.org
+    x add to /home/service/virtual/gateway/.dispatchmailrc
+      $self->copy('Newsgate', 'nfo.tutos.sysadmin') if $to =~ m/sysadmin/;
+    x add to /etc/mail/virtusertable:
+      # --- news.netfrag.org - joko, 2003-01-24
+      sysadmin@netfrag.org            gateway
+      make virtusertable!
+    x write welcome-mail
+      root@quepasa:~$ mail sysadmin@netfrag.org
+      Subject: Welcome to the sysadmin-newsgroup at netfrag.org!
+      Have fun!
+      greets, joko.
+      
+      .
+      Cc:
+    x test: do "refresh newsgroups" at your favourite news-reader
+  x this has been refactored to: [news:id=b0shbj$l9s$1@quepasa.netfrag.org]
+    x HEADERS:
+      x Message-ID: 
+      x Subject: Re: Welcome to the sysadmin-newsgroup at netfrag.org!
+    o newsgate
+      o http://news.netfrag.org/nfo.tutos.sysadmin/id/b0shbj$l9s$1@quepasa.netfrag.org
+      o http://news.netfrag.org/nfo.tutos.sysadmin/subject/Re: Welcome to the sysadmin-newsgroup at netfrag.org!
+
+o Erkenntnis aus UML (Kernel 2.4): schwierig mit gleichzeitigem Zugriff
+
+o gave up trying to get Troll running
+
+x setup alternatives to Horde for public access
+  o viewcvs
+    x apt-get install libapache-mod-python
+    
+  o WebNewsViewer
+  
+o release the user from having to send email-messages to actually post urls with content (e.g. "FirstPage")
+
+o parse .url-files!
+
+o have newsgroup-structure backed in ldap-container (ou) somehow (Data::Map!)
+
+x new email-addresses@netfrag.org:
+  x sysadmin@netfrag.org
+  x faq@netfrag.org
+  
+x setup newsportal (by Florian Amrhein)
+  x url: http://florian-amrhein.de/newsportal/
+  x cd /home/service/download
+  x mkdir newsportal
+  x cd newsportal
+  x wget http://florian-amrhein.de/newsportal/download/newsportal-0.24.tar.gz
+  x mkdir -p /data/www/virtual/netfrag/sites/news/apps/newsportal/
+  x tar -xzf newsportal-0.24.tar.gz --directory=/data/www/global/apps/newsportal/
+  x add to /data/www/virtual/netfrag/conf/applications.conf
+    Alias /webnews/ /data/www/global/apps/newsportal/
+  x configure in /data/www/global/apps/newsportal/config.inc
+    // newsserver setup
+    $server="news.netfrag.org";
+    $server_auth_user="webnews";
+    $server_auth_pass="web123";
+  x add to /etc/news/nnrp.access:
+    # 2003-01-26, joko
+    *:Read Post:webnews:web123:*
+  x modify groups.txt
+    
+    o TODO: AUTOUPDATE here!
+  x add to the index-page: 
+    xR set INSERTION=""
+    x grep -rin "
+      doc/faq.html:4:
+      doc/history.txt:234:- fehlender  Tag ergaenzt
+      doc/readme-english.html:4:
+      doc/history.txt~:233:- fehlender  Tag ergaenzt
+      extras/frames/thread_frameset.php:10:
+      head.inc:5:
+    x cvs add head.inc
+    x cvs commit -m "+ initial commit" head.inc
+    x 
+      x nano head.inc
+      x  STRG+W + T: 5
+      xR  
+      xR 
+      x  STRG+O + [ENTER]
+    x test: http://www.netfrag.org/webnews/>
+      o TODO: RefactorThisHtmlRef to WebNews
+    o view message in some MimeViewer or HtmlViewer (Horde?)
+      o -> use a MessageViewer with MimeCapabilities and HtmlCapabilities
+  x Why newsportal and no other?
+    x directly connects to nntp-daemon
+    x has local spool (o TODO: purge regularly?)
+    x highly customizable
+      x added custom css-stylesheet and changed something at content-rendering-level without any problems
+      x visit cvs.netfrag.org to look at the changes made to the newsportal codebase: 
+        x -> newsportal at cvs.netfrag.org
+          o TODO: RefactorThisLink
+    x it's just easy!
+
+x rework apache-layout - check into repository as something root is responsible for!
+
+o NfoWeb
+  o add WikiPages:
+    o Overview
+      o Projects
+      o MiniHowTo
+      (o Search)
+  o modify HomePage
+    o change Projects to Overview
+
+o yakka & pod
+  o convert pod to tavi 
+    o perl first (pod2tavi)
+    o php afterwards (pod2tavi-php)
+    o then refactor to a YakkaPlugin (an "input-filter"?) ('yakka-filter-pod'?)
+  o address "files" outside the normal/configured default YakkaRepository
+    o introduce: "ExplicitAddressingOfArbitraryTargets"
+      o via HttpHeader (GET/POST) (HtmlUrlArgument, HtmlFormField)
+    o introduce "YakkaContainers": aim: group a bunch of targets/items together as a kind of "MetaRepository"
+
+o viewcvs & yakka
+  o a filesystem-adapter for yakka's storage-handler-system
+  o show "view in yakka" if document-type eq 'tavi|tavi,v|pod'
+
+o IconForNetfrag.Org?
+  o fav.ico?
+  
+x install viewcvs
+  x apt-get install viewcvs
+    x configured:
+      x /var/lib/cvs
+      x email-address (new): cvs-admin@netfrag.org  ->  dev@netfrag.org
+      x no forbidden modules (do this via unix permissions!)
+      x allow tarball generation? yes!
+      x Hint: add "Alias /viewcvs/ /usr/share/viewcvs/" to /etc/apache/conf/httpd.conf for online documents and icons
+        x added to '/data/www/virtual/netfrag/conf/applications.conf' in our case
+      x added '' to '/etc/viewcvs/templates/header.ezt'
+
+o rendering proposals for TaviWorkflow
+  o Linking|Referencing (WikiWords, PureExplicitLinkExtrapolation, NamedLinks)
+  o Coloring
+    o [o=red, x=green, R=red, r=green]
+
+o shortcut: TestApache to run 'apachectl configtest' (WikiForSystemAdministration)
+
+x web-based newsreader? twig!
+  x apt-get install twig
+  
+o shutdown horde (for now: "pause")
+
+o viewcvs & apache-mod-python?
+
+o home2web, .home2webrc
+  --before: buildhtml --source=pod|tavi
+  --after: say "ready"
+
+x added root of quepasa to cvs
+  x su root
+  x cd /var/lib/cvs/nfo/hosts/quepasa.netfrag.org
+  x mkdir root
+    x chown -R .rootsrc root/
+    x chmod -R g+w root/
+  x cd /tmp
+  x cvs -d /var/lib/cvs checkout -d / nfo/hosts/quepasa.netfrag.org/root
+  x start with /etc
+    x cd /etc
+    x cvs add etc
+    x cvs add viewcvs
+      x cd viewcvs
+      x cvs add ....
+      x cvs commit -m "+ initial commit"
+
+x How to get a single file from cvs for download: (e.g.)
+   wget http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/*checkout*/viewcvs/viewcvs/templates/header.ezt?rev=1.2
+
+x cvsgraph still missing: apt-get install cvsgraph
+
+x chora -> viewcvs
+  o change logo at /usr/share/viewcvs/images
+  x removed from template 
+  x cvsview-query.cgi didn't work yet!
+    x error was:
+      x tail -f /data/www/virtual/netfrag/log/error_log
+      Traceback (most recent call last):
+        File "/usr/lib/cgi-bin/viewcvs-query.cgi", line 50, in ?
+          import query
+        File "/usr/lib/python2.1/viewcvs/query.py", line 42, in ?
+          import cvsdb
+        File "/usr/lib/python2.1/viewcvs/cvsdb.py", line 34, in ?
+          import dbi
+        File "/usr/lib/python2.1/viewcvs/dbi.py", line 17, in ?
+          import MySQLdb
+      ImportError: No module named MySQLdb
+      [Sat Jan 25 11:16:55 2003] [error] [client 217.231.127.85] Premature end of script headers: /usr/lib/cgi-bin/viewcvs-query.cgi
+    x solution is:      
+      x apt-get install python-mysqldb
+    x use mysql;
+      x insert into db values ('localhost', 'ViewCVS', 'viewcvs', 'Y','Y','Y','Y','Y','Y','N','Y','Y','Y');
+      x insert into db values ('%', 'ViewCVS', 'viewcvs', 'Y','Y','Y','Y','Y','Y','N','Y','Y','Y');
+      x insert into user (host, user, password) values ('localhost', 'viewcvs', password('viewcvs'));
+      x flush privileges;
+    x cd /usr/lib/viewcvs
+    x ./make-database
+  x 
+  o mail to author of viewcvs
+    
+
+o docu about uml and filesystem-layer running on gharb for MiniHowTo?
+
+o search.php?wiki=1&cvs=1&index=1
+
+o get mnoGoSearch running
+  e apt-get install mnoGoSearch
+
+o it's not tavi nor tavi-workflow - it's: JustWrite? it's todo! (.todo -> .justdo -> .justwrite -> .done)
+
+o ScanToWeb
+
+o look at Mailman: http://www.list.org/features.html
+
+o use cvsup!?
+
+o alien.netfrag.org - (package-conversion)  --> alien.packages.netfrag.org
+
+o chora2viewcvs - How to migrate from Horde/Chora to viewcvs.
+
+o LinuxInCvs (linux2cvs)
+
+o TestApacheConfig, StopApache, StartApache have to work without any running Apache - of course!
+
+o through "viewcvs" we loose the ability to "publish" documents via former chora:
+   viewcvs takes care to keep documents like they are in their original - so ".html"-files should be shown with text/plain
+
+o re-integrate .cvslink/JumpToCvs with dispatchurl
+
+o WikiWords in CvsCommitMessages? (via yakka?)
+
+x http://cvs.netfrag.org/bareface/yakka/?tarball=1
+
+o [source:/link/to/source-code]   (most times a '.cvslink' - hmmm?)
+   [source:]
+
+o HelpMe
+
+o [snapshot:/link/to/snapshot]
+   [snapshot:]
+
+o dispatchrequest - a multipurpose request dispatcher
+  o integrate:
+    x redirector at cvs.netfrag.org ...
+    o ... and news.netfrag.org
+  o JumpToCvs (.cvslink-mechanism)
+  o how was it done?
+    x cd /data/www/virtual/netfrag/sites/webcvs/.dispatch
+    x ln -s /data/www/global/apps/dispatchrequest .
+    
+  
+o buildhtml -> makedoc
+
+o TWIG & yakka?
+
+o rename: dispatchmail -> dispatchmessage
+
+c rename: dispatchrequest -> forwardrequest?
+
+o readrc of bashrc|perlrc|xmlrc
+
+x setup TWIG
+  x cd /usr/share/doc/twig
+  x cd /data/www/virtual/netfrag/conf/
+  x nano applications.conf
+  x add line: Alias /twig/ /usr/share/twig/
+  x had to modify /etc/apache/conf/httpd.conf:
+    x added: 'index.php3'
+        
+            DirectoryIndex index.html index.htm index.shtml index.cgi index.php index.php3
+        
+    x added: '.php3'
+        AddType application/x-httpd-php .php .php3
+    x /etc/init.d/apache reload
+    x cd /etc/twig
+      x modify config.inc.php3
+    x cd /usr/share/twig/setup
+      x mysql
+        x use mysql
+        x insert into user (host, user, password) values ('localhost', 'www-data', password(''));
+        x insert into db values ('localhost', 'twig', 'www-data', 'Y','Y','Y','Y','Y','Y','N','Y','Y','Y');
+        x create database twig;
+        x flush privileges;
+      x database-schema
+        x gunzip twig.table.mysql.gz
+        x mysql twig < twig.table.mysql
+        
+x setup arbitrary packet and bind to csm-system (Collaborative Software Management)
+  x pinstall twig
+    x apt-get install twig
+    x cd /etc
+    x cvs add twig
+    x cd twig
+    x cvs add *
+    x cvs add .htaccess
+    x cvs commit -m "+ initial commit"
+  
+
+o remove html from phpWiki: ('http://'!!!) (->https!!!)
+  
+  
+  
+
+o force https for: (authentication purposes - anonymous is http!)
+  o horde
+  o tutos
+  
+x dpkg -x twig_2.7.5-4_all.deb tmp/
+
+o TWIG & OpenLDAP!?
+
+x ApacheMasterLayoutRefactoring: quepasa.netfrag.org:
+  x removed /data/www/doc to /data/www/global/apps
+    x test: 
+      x cd /data/www/virtual
+      x grep -ri "/data/www/doc" *
+      x cd /data/www/global
+        x grep -ri "/data/www/doc" *
+        x apps/twiki/
+          x lib/TWiki.cfg
+          x bin/.htaccess
+        x conf/twiki-httpd
+          ---> just change between 'global' and (e.g.) 'virtual/netfrag' for switching between scopes   ;-)
+          ---> the container (folder)-structure at global and sub-virtual level must match almost exactly to make this possible!!!!!
+        x conf/virtualdomains-httpd/
+        x doc/twiki/
+  x removed: /data/www/virtual/netfrag/pub to /data/www/virtual/netfrag/sites/public
+    x cd virtual/netfrag/conf
+      x grep -ri "/pub" *
+        x modify httpd.conf and applications.conf
+  x apachectl configtest
+    Syntax error on line 345 of /etc/apache/httpd.conf:
+    DocumentRoot must be a directory
+    x disabled there completely
+    x now in /data/www/global/conf/httpd.conf
+      DocumentRoot /data/www/virtual/netfrag/sites/public
+  x apachectl configtest
+    fopen: No such file or directory
+    apache: could not open document config file /data/www/conf/twiki-httpd.conf
+    x mv /data/www/global/conf/twiki-httpd.conf /data/www/virtual/netfrag/conf/
+    x nano /data/www/virtual/netfrag/conf/applications.conf to match new path
+  x apachectl configtest
+    fopen: No such file or directory
+    apache: could not open document config file /data/www/conf/tutos-httpd.conf
+    x cd virtual/netfrag
+    x grep -rin "www/conf" *
+    x edit applications.conf:21
+      x was: Include /data/www/conf/tutos-httpd.conf
+      x is: Include /data/www/global/conf/tutos-httpd.conf
+  x apachectl configtest
+    Warning: DocumentRoot [/data/www/virtual/netfrag/sites/webnews] does not exist
+    fopen: No such file or directory
+    apache: could not open document config file /data/www/conf/dynamic.conf
+    x grep -rin webnews *
+      x edit applications.conf:30
+        x was: Alias /webnews/ /data/www/global/apps/newsportal/
+        x is: Alias /webnews/ /data/www/global/apps/newsportal/
+      x edit httpd.conf:74
+        x was: DocumentRoot /data/www/virtual/netfrag/sites/webnews
+        x is: DocumentRoot /data/www/virtual/netfrag/sites/news
+     x cd global/conf
+     x grep -rin www/conf *
+      x STDOUT-PARSE:
+        httpd.conf:14:#Include /data/www/conf/httpd-php-perl.conf
+        httpd.conf:16:#Include /data/www/conf/virtualdomains-httpd.conf
+        httpd.conf:29:Include /data/www/conf/dynamic.conf
+          ->FILE-MODIFY: httpd.conf:29:Include /data/www/global/conf/dynamic.conf
+  x apachectl configtest
+      root@quepasa:/data/www/global/conf# apachectl configtest
+      configuring dynamic domain "golf5.de"
+      configuring dynamic domain "smartmen.de"
+      configuring dynamic domain "ballonflug.de"
+      Syntax OK
+  x /etc/init.d/apache restart
+  x testing "http://netfrag.org/" fails
+  x testing "http://netfrag.org/index.php"
+    x makes redirect to "http://netfrag.org/nfoweb/" but fails there
+  x tail -f tail -f /data/www/virtual/netfrag/log/error_log
+    [Sun Jan 26 15:32:04 2003] [error] [client 217.231.119.195] File does not exist: /data/www/virtual/netfrag/pub/
+    [Sun Jan 26 15:33:02 2003] [error] [client 217.231.119.195] File does not exist: /data/www/virtual/netfrag/pub/
+    [Sun Jan 26 16:37:37 2003] [error] [client 217.231.119.195] Symbolic link not allowed: /data/www/virtual/netfrag/sites/public/nfoweb/
+    [Sun Jan 26 16:38:08 2003] [error] [client 217.231.119.195] Symbolic link not allowed: /data/www/virtual/netfrag/sites/public/nfoweb/
+    [Sun Jan 26 16:40:10 2003] [error] [client 217.231.119.195] Symbolic link not allowed: /data/www/virtual/netfrag/sites/public/nfoweb/
+
+
+o register:
+  public.netfrag.org -> http://netfrag.org
+  secure.netfrag.org -> https://netfrag.org
+  
+o netfrag.org: DispatchRequest for http://netfrag.org/nfoweb/!
+o netfrag.org: DispatchRequest for http://netfrag.org/rrr/!
+
+o IntroduceMergePoint at http://netfrag.org/doc/
+  o MiniHowto
+  o faqs (e.g. from news://news.netfrag.org/nfo.faq.users
+
+o what about an "AUTOSAVE"-feature for UltraEdit when leaving the window or
+  o an AUTOCOMMIT on that very event (maybe integrated with a counter)
+  
+o write scripts to iterate recursively through directories under specified path ...
+  o ... and do some actions on each directory, e.g.
+  o execute some specified .dot-files (e.g. .pod2htmlrc, .symlinkrc, .makedocrc)
+  
+x CVSSpam in action:
+  10146 ?        S      0:00 /usr/sbin/sshd
+  10148 ?        S      0:00 /usr/sbin/sshd
+  10149 ?        S      0:00 cvs server
+  10150 ?        S      0:00 cvs server
+  10151 ?        S      0:00 /bin/login
+  10155 ?        S      0:00 /usr/bin/ruby -w /var/lib/cvs/CVSROOT/collect_diffs.rb --to joko@netfrag
+  10158 ?        S      0:00 /usr/bin/ruby /var/lib/cvs/CVSROOT/cvsspam.rb /tmp/#cvs.loginfo.10149.10
+  
+x as Chora'sStylesheet has come active (by accident) when viewing this file view web
+   we should include this as a fixed default making horde our default stylesheet delivery engine (for now)
+
+o link-checker for netfrag.org
+
+o dispatcher for style.netfrag.org redirecting to ?
+  o styleme.php
+  o brandme.php
+  
+
+
+o mini-howto: "HttpRedirect"
+
+o how to refactor the MiniHowtos?
+  o into a wiki? wikis seem to miss offline/distributed capabilities! (for now)
+  x into pod
+    x build offline
+    o build online
+  o into DocBook?
+  o into tavi? (or "TaviWorkflow"?)
+  o but: LinkWithWikiAutomagically to get everything together
+    o look at the InterwikiMechanism
+    o look at the various WikiPluginArchitectures
+    o look at YakkaDev!
+
+o a LinkageExample: RenderThis(html4|text|html3|pdf) with [[yakka]] and [[tavi-workflow]]!
+
+o proposal for hierarchical structure (and HomePage) of netfrag.org
+  ~overview -> SomeWiki -> Overview
+    ~projects (include some common text here)
+    ~users (include some common text here)
+      - Page: UserArea
+      - Page: ~users
+  ~projects -> SomeWiki-> Projects
+  ~users (include former page "User area" (now UserArea) automagically at the bottom here! (WikiInclude?))
+    ~rabit (raBit's router - psl.no-ip.com)
+    ~natraj (sam's place - optix)
+    ~joko (joko's)
+    ~bareface (->yakka)
+
+o MasterWorkflow:
+  -> TheThreeGoodThings
+    -> HaveIdea -> WriteDown (RefactorLater) -> WriteDownMore -> WriteDownAssociations -> WriteDownEvenMoreIfNotStoppedByExternalInfluences
+    -> RefactorIdeas -> Categorize -> AddNotes -> AddTasks
+    -> DoThings -> ReadTasks -> DoTasks
+  -> TheFourthBadThing: TimeTrackAllThis  ;-)  (it seems to be not so far away....)
+
+o what do we need / what do we do?
+  --- researcher
+    o OnlineReading
+    (o SelectItemsForDownload)  <- want-to-have
+    (o DownloadItems)  <- want-to-have
+  --- researcher
+    o OfflineReading
+    x ClumsyOfflineReading  <- status-quo
+      (o NiceOfflineReading)  <- want-to-have
+      (o OfflineArchiving)  <- want-to-have
+    o OfflineEditing (text, html, pod, tavi)
+    o OnlinePublishing ()
+  --- engine
+    o LiveDispatching (ContentEncoding, ContentConversion, EnvelopeEncapsulation, GatewayToXyz)
+      o OfflineRendering (html, text, pdf, chm)
+  --- reader
+    o OnlineReading ()
+    (o SelectItemsForDownload)  <- want-to-have
+    (o DownloadItems)  <- want-to-have
+    o OfflineReading (pdf, chm)
+
+o link to http://teamsonar.no-ip.com
+
+o mail announces to announce@netfrag.org
+
+
 
 
 
+
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