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# Line 475  o Twingle! Line 562  o Twingle!
562    o twingle -> dispatchmail (Twingle::Mail)    o twingle -> dispatchmail (Twingle::Mail)
563    o twingle -> twingledoc (Twingle::Doc)    o twingle -> twingledoc (Twingle::Doc)
564    
565  o refactor to "twingled/":  o update www.netfrag.org
566    o http://netfrag.org/~joko/computing/overview/topics/topics/    o refactor to "twingled/":
567    o http://netfrag.org/~joko/computing/overview/topics/SampleTasks/      o http://netfrag.org/~joko/computing/overview/topics/topics/
568  o update http://netfrag.org/~joko/computing/overview/topics/topics.html      o http://netfrag.org/~joko/computing/overview/topics/SampleTasks/
569      o update http://netfrag.org/~joko/computing/overview/topics/topics.html
570    
571  x re-enable Yakka  x re-enable Yakka
572    
# Line 637  x setup org.droogs--Autodia: location ht Line 725  x setup org.droogs--Autodia: location ht
725            
726  o quick (javascript) search for netfrag.org and packages.debian.org (xul?)  o quick (javascript) search for netfrag.org and packages.debian.org (xul?)
727    
728  o phpDirectoryIndex: include Joshua Eichhorns 'auth' [[http://cvs.joshuaeichorn.com/cvsweb.cgi/auth/]]  o phpDirectoryIndex:
729      o integrate Joshua Eichhorns 'auth' [[http://cvs.joshuaeichorn.com/cvsweb.cgi/auth/]]
730      o hide more entries: e.g. 'CVS' (declare as "cvs-repository-metadata" - "hidden by default")
731    
732  @lookat http://cvs.joshuaeichorn.com/cvsweb.cgi/phpXmlTransform/  @lookat http://cvs.joshuaeichorn.com/cvsweb.cgi/phpXmlTransform/
733    
# Line 740  o final solution for the libxml-problem? Line 830  o final solution for the libxml-problem?
830      x dpkg-deb --build fakepkg libxml2_2.4.19-4_i386_fake_2.5.0-1.deb      x dpkg-deb --build fakepkg libxml2_2.4.19-4_i386_fake_2.5.0-1.deb
831      x dpkg -i libxml2_2.4.19-4_i386_fake_2.5.0-1.deb      x dpkg -i libxml2_2.4.19-4_i386_fake_2.5.0-1.deb
832    
833    o update www.netfrag.org
834  o announce on www.netfrag.org  o announce on www.netfrag.org
835    o api-doc    o api-doc
836    o packages.netfrag.org (libxml2!)    o packages.netfrag.org (libxml2!)
# Line 754  o install and use 'monit' to monitor uml Line 845  o install and use 'monit' to monitor uml
845  o refactor Yakka::YakkaSetup  o refactor Yakka::YakkaSetup
846    
847  o quepasa - Error: AMaViS  o quepasa - Error: AMaViS
848      Starting AMaViS Daemons: amavis-milter amavisdCan't locate Razor/Client.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.0 /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.0 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.8.0 /usr/share/perl/5.8.0 /usr/local/lib/site_perl) at /usr/sbin/amavisd line 54.  
849       <screen>
850        Starting AMaViS Daemons: amavis-milter amavisd
851        Can't locate Razor/Client.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.0 /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.0 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.8.0 /usr/share/perl/5.8.0 /usr/local/lib/site_perl) at /usr/sbin/amavisd line 54.
852      BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/sbin/amavisd line 54.      BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/sbin/amavisd line 54.
853    x apt-get install razor     </screen>
854    
855      - probably because of perl-5.8.0?
856    
857      x apt-get install razor   #)§$&(
858      solution:
859        x dpkg --force-depends -r razor
860        x wget http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/r/razor/razor_1.20-1_all.deb
861        x dpkg -i razor_1.20-1_all.deb
862         => depends on 'libtime-hires-perl', so:
863          x wget http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/libt/libtime-hires-perl/libtime-hires-perl_1.20-4_i386.deb
864          x dpkg -i libtime-hires-perl_1.20-4_i386.deb
865            dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of libtime-hires-perl:
866             libtime-hires-perl depends on perlapi-5.6.0; however:
867              Package perlapi-5.6.0 is not installed.
868              ;-( /)(%(/$%%&$
869        => removing dependencies about everything from razor1-package
870          x dpkg -x razor_1.20-1_all.deb razor
871          x dpkg -r razor_1.20-1_all.deb
872          x mv DEBIAN/ razor/
873          x do: remove line 'Depends:' from DEBIAN/control
874          [x chmod -R 0755 razor/DEBIAN/] maybe!  (if: dpkg-deb: control directory has bad permissions 2755 (must be >=0755 and <=0775))
875          x dpkg -b razor razor_1.20-1_all_nodeps.deb
876          x cp razor_1.20-1_all_nodeps.deb /data/Packages/dists/stable/contrib/binary-i386/
877        =>
878          x dpkg -i /data/Packages/dists/stable/contrib/binary-i386/razor_1.20-1_all_nodeps.deb
879        => [test]
880          x /etc/init.d/amavis-milter start
881           <screen>
882            Can't load '/usr/lib/perl5/auto/Time/HiRes/HiRes.so' for module Time::HiRes: /usr/lib/perl5/auto/Time/HiRes/HiRes.so: undefined symbol: PL_stack_max at /usr/lib/perl/5.8.0/DynaLoader.pm line 225.
883             at /usr/sbin/amavisd line 46
884            Compilation failed in require at /usr/sbin/amavisd line 46.
885            BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/sbin/amavisd line 46.      
886           </screen>
887        => [CPAN-install]
888          x perl -MCPAN -e "install Time::HiRes"
889           <screen>
890              [...]
891              compile -- compile -- compile
892              [...]
893              Running make install
894              Installing /usr/lib/perl/5.8.0/auto/Time/HiRes/HiRes.so
895              Files found in blib/arch: installing files in blib/lib into architecture dependent library tree
896              Installing /usr/lib/perl/5.8.0/Time/HiRes.pm
897              Installing /usr/share/man/man3/Time::HiRes.3pm
898              Writing /usr/lib/perl/5.8.0/auto/Time/HiRes/.packlist
899              Appending installation info to /usr/lib/perl/5.8.0/perllocal.pod
900                /usr/bin/make install  -- OK
901           </screen>
902    
903      x probably because of perl-5.8.0? yes!  --  is it fixed now? let's try...  (again)
904          x /etc/init.d/amavis-milter restart
905            no! same error as above!
906          the problem is:
907          watch the output of 'perl -V' - at the bottom:
908          <screen>
909            Characteristics of this binary (from libperl):
910              Compile-time options: MULTIPLICITY USE_ITHREADS USE_LARGE_FILES PERL_IMPLICIT_CONTEXT
911              Built under linux
912              Compiled at Feb 17 2003 12:38:57
913              @INC:
914                /etc/perl
915                /usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.0
916                /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.0
917                /usr/lib/perl5
918                /usr/share/perl5
919                /usr/lib/perl/5.8.0
920                /usr/share/perl/5.8.0
921                /usr/local/lib/site_perl
922                .
923          </screen>
924    
925          The bad one is the "old" shared object coming with Time::HiRes for perl-5.6.1 living at
926          /usr/lib/perl5/auto/Time/HiRes/HiRes.so.
927          
928          We have these options:
929            1. delete this stuff
930            2. put a better version at '.'
931            3. place line '/usr/lib/perl/5.8.0' above of '/usr/lib/perl5'
932            4. copy stuff from '/usr/lib/perl/5.8.0' to '/usr/lib/perl5'
933          
934          Hmmm.....
935            I think i'll choose option 1.:
936            x rm -rf /usr/lib/perl5/auto/Time/HiRes
937            (or if you don't wanna be as brute-force)
938            x cd /usr/lib/perl5/auto/Time
939            x mv HiRes HiRes.old
940            
941        => let's try again:      
942          x /etc/init.d/amavis-milter restart
943            Time::HiRes object version 1.42 does not match bootstrap parameter 01.20 at /usr/lib/perl/5.8.0/DynaLoader.pm line 245.
944    
945        => ahhh...  (also testable via 'perl -MTime::HiRes')
946          x dpkg --force-depends -r libtime-hires-perl
947          => my fault! ;-)
948    
949      => so, everything works fine now....
950          x /etc/init.d/amavis-milter restart
951        
952  o BER.pm:  BER (Basic Encoding Rules) encoding and decoding.  o BER.pm:  BER (Basic Encoding Rules) encoding and decoding.
953    
954    o use a common [[http://razor.sourceforge.net/artistic.html|"Artistic License"]]?
955    
956    o use pdumpfs!
957    
958    o what we build seems similar to Torque <-> Maven  (Tangram|XyZ+Data::Storage <-> nfo-libs|rap)
959    
960    o write meta-documentation about why it's required to lift version-numbers of debian-packages
961      -> Why dpkg-liftversion?
962      1. yakka: libxml2!!!
963      2. amavis-milter: razor-1-branch-required
964    
965    o installing pdumpfs as system-wide backup-system:
966      x mkdir -p /home/service/virtual/pdumpfs/var/data
967      x mkdir -p /home/service/virtual/pdumpfs/var/log
968      x cd /usr/local/bin
969      x ln -s /home/service/virtual/pdumpfs/backup .
970    
971    o feature: BrowsableBackup:
972      o missing: authentication via LDAP....
973    
974    o make up toolpack from shortcuts/*, dispatchmail, backup (->pdumpfs), etc...
975      ->packages.service.netfrag.org
976      -->/usr/local/bin
977      
978    o one account - three services:
979      o wiki
980      o news
981      o backup
982      (o ssh) (not-a-must)
983    
984    o dpkg-modcontrol!!!
985    
986    o robinson - purge package dependencies from .deb- or .rpm-packages
987      can alien do that?
988    
989    o rsync working: view from the server-side:
990     3968 ?        R      0:40 rsync --server --sender -vulogDtprz . /home/service/backup/
991    
992    x finally: we have a backup-system!
993      - built on top of pdumpfs (ruby!), gets triggered by cron through shortcut-script 'backup'
994      - backs up:
995        x /home/*   (except /home/service)
996        x /data/bin  (approx. 9.2M)
997        x /data/libs  (approx. 1.7M)
998        x /data/opt  (approx. 27M)
999        o /data/var  (approx. 104M)
1000          o mysql-db
1001          o news-spool
1002        o /data/www  (approx. 126M)
1003          x /data/www/virtual/lashlarue  (approx. 28M)
1004          x /data/www/virtual/netfrag  (approx. 68M)
1005          x /data/www/virtual/wac  (approx. 4M)
1006      o productive backup should go to /var/pdumpfs (similar to /var/backup) instead of /home/service/virtual/pdumpfs!!!
1007      o prevent recursive backups (what happens if the backup directory itself would be specified to backup???)
1008      => #> crontab -e
1009            adding line: 03 03 * * * bash /home/service/virtual/agent/backup_all
1010      o limit size of files that are backuped without user-request!?! (2MB, 10MB, 100MB, 1G)
1011    
1012    o establish logfile-rotation with logrotate!!!
1013      #> cd /data/www/virtual/lashlarue/log
1014      #> gzip access_log
1015      #> gzip error_log
1016    
1017    o more todos:
1018      x clean more diskspace
1019        - How to find files larger than, hmm, let's say: 512MB?
1020          use 'dus'! [Disk Usage Sorter]
1021          http://marginalhacks.com/bin/dus
1022        - now disk-usage-stats are prepared to be generated at service.netfrag.org (dus/fbf)
1023    
1024        - h1.service.netfrag.org
1025          /dev/hda7             38570848  33162404   5408444  86% /
1026    
1027    
1028        o /home/uml/skels aufräumen!
1029      o draw more diagrams
1030      o let 'monit' monitor our umls
1031        - together with heartbeat!
1032      o make more backups
1033        databases: code (repository) and rdbms-sql (mysql)
1034    
1035    o look in /var/log/syslog after crash! (other logfiles?)
1036    
1037    o h1.service.netfrag.org:
1038      rjoko@h1:/home/uml/helo # monit
1039      monit: error while loading shared libraries: libssl.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
1040      rjoko@h1:/home/uml/helo # deleeeeete backup!!! is it reeaaady?
1041    
1042    x h1.service.netfrag.org - ssh-upgrade [security] (2.9p2 -> 2.9.9p2)
1043      rjoko@h1:~ # ssh -V
1044      OpenSSH_2.9p2, SSH protocols 1.5/2.0, OpenSSL 0x0090602f  
1045      rjoko@h1:~ # rpm -U ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/update/7.3/sec1/openssh.rpm
1046      rjoko@h1:~ # ssh -V
1047      OpenSSH_2.9.9p2, SSH protocols 1.5/2.0, OpenSSL 0x0090602f
1048    
1049    o what about legolas?
1050    
1051    o search-shortcut to rpmfind.net
1052    
1053    o request to hetzner:
1054      please delete handle "CNO: MM458-ABC"...
1055    
1056    o update www.netfrag.org
1057      o prevent errors like seen on http://netfrag.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/joko/virtual/joko_mail/
1058    
1059    o update www.netfrag.org
1060      x HomePage (phpWiki::Index): remove yakka's "to be repaired" - line
1061      o Overview: add link to DocumentIndex at section 'Documentation'
1062      x update links (jonen's docs/software, etc.)
1063      o rename http://netfrag.org/docs/build/ to http://netfrag.org/docs/.build/ or http://netfrag.org/docs/@build/
1064      o rename http://netfrag.org/docs/topics/caesar/ to http://netfrag.org/docs/topics/sysadmin/ ???
1065      x add new items to sections
1066      x update/enhance news-section (Overview, Details)
1067    
1068    o run broken-link-finder on www.netfrag.org
1069      -> find nice project!
1070    
1071    o infra for www.netfrag.org
1072      o make this shortcut possible: http://netfrag.org/Overview
1073    
1074    o account for jonen@www.netfrag.org--phpWiki::*
1075    
1076    o twingle:
1077      render 'o' and/or 'x' symbols as checkboxes other users can use to enable/prioritize tasks
1078    
1079    o backup eagle.netfrag.org!!!
1080    
1081    o enhance backup-system
1082      LookAt::http://www.netfrag.org/webnews/article.php?id=320&group=nfo.links.computing
1083    
1084    o LookAt = MIME-compliant multi-glass
1085    
1086    o at note/attachment to documents shown via browser to inform user about backups made
1087      (link to backup-locations/-urls)
1088    
1089    o search::admintools before actually starting a ToolHierarchy|ToolTree
1090    
1091    o http://www.netfrag.org/~joko/computing/overview/topics/SampleTasks/joko_2003-01.html
1092      Torus::Publish::ReWeb <-> Torus::Publish::ResearchWeb ???
1093    
1094    o search::IMAPFilter
1095    
1096    o QoS for apt-get!!!  (http or ftp to x.debian.org or uni-erlangen.de (parse /etc/apt/sources.list!!!))
1097    
1098    x jonen makes the words: integraded! yeah!
1099    
1100    o Develop a metadata-model (preferably stored inside an LDAP-daemon),
1101      which can hold information about Host <-> vHost <-> Service(s).
1102      This would enhance the Host <-> [posix]Account model currently in development.
1103      o Also associate the [posix]Accounts with an AddressBook! (AddressBook <-> ProprietaryAddressBook)
1104      o Also associate MailRouting with that [posix]Accounts
1105      => this has to be implemented:
1106        0. already in development: Host <-> posixAccount, Host <-> MailRouting
1107        1. tbd: Host <-> vHost <-> Service(s)
1108        2. tbd: posixAccount <-> AddressBook
1109        3. tbd: posixAccount <-> MailRouting
1110    
1111    o use [rss2email|http://www.w3.org/2002/09/rss2email/]
1112      -> that's it: news//rss -> rss2email
1113      -> choose a web-based rss-reader from http://blogspace.com/rss/readers
1114      o LookAt::[ModIndexRSS|http://software.tangent.org/projects.pl?view=mod_index_rss]
1115        also look at "mod_repository for Apache" there!!!
1116    
1117    o close down almost everything on h1.service.netfrag.org
1118      o ntop
1119      o apache
1120      o mysql
1121      o vsd
1122      o write (success-)story!!!
1123    
1124    # --- bookmark, 2003-03-13 00:43
1125    
1126    o note about workflow / FAQ: what about old root-emails on the main-host?
1127      x purged old mboxes
1128        -> just purge them? (admin-action: approve purge!)
1129        #> cd /var/spool/mail
1130        #> >root      (updated recently)
1131        #> >service      (updated recently)
1132        #> rm netsaint      (last entry: Date/Time: Thu Jan 23 14:32:48 CET 2003)
1133      o Write MiniHowTo: How to check if a mbox contains mud-only? try 'formail'!
1134        #> cat {mbox-file} | formail -I "" | less
1135        from 'man formail':
1136           To extract the header from a message:
1137                  formail -X ""
1138           or
1139                  sed -e '/^$/ q'
1140    
1141           To extract the body from a message:
1142                  formail -I ""
1143           or
1144                  sed -e '1,/^$/ d'
1145                  
1146      !!!!!!    no - this doesn't work - 'formail' is not for reading whole 'mbox'-format    !!!!!!
1147      
1148      use this:
1149        #> mutt -f <mbox-file>
1150          
1151      x purged old mboxes:
1152        #> rm rfms      (last entry: Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 20:45:01 +0100)
1153        #> rm jonen     (last entry: Jun 25  2002)
1154        
1155        
1156    
1157    o convert diffs of this file to rss-chunks to be able to feed them to a RecentChanged Page or arbitrary rss-aggregators
1158    
1159    o make up an "edit"-mode of this document:
1160      o WorkFlow: "Make a personal WishList from items of another users TaskList."
1161      o ToImplement: KISS, Click & Go
1162    
1163    o x.netfrag.org - a server made up of WebServices
1164    
1165    x glossary::KISS - Keep It Simple, Stupid
1166      LookAt::http://whatis.techtarget.com/definition/0,,sid9_gci521694,00.html
1167      <paste>
1168        <title>KISS Principle</title>
1169        The KISS (Keep It Simple, Stupid) Principle is self-descriptive and recognizes two things:
1170        1. People (including product and service users) generally want things that are simple,
1171            meaning easy to learn and use.
1172        2. A company that makes products or furnishes services may find simplicity an advantage
1173            for the company as well, since it tends to shorten time and reduce cost.
1174            (Where the company is trying to use the principle on behalf of users, however,
1175            design time may take longer and cost more, but the net effect will be beneficial since
1176            easy-to-learn-and-use products and services tend to be cheaper to produce and service in the long run.)
1177        The New Hacker's Dictionary, edited by Eric Raymond, says the the KISS Principle
1178        is sometimes cited on a development project to fend off "creeping featurism."
1179      </paste>
1180      SeeAlso::[Ockham's razor|http://whatis.techtarget.com/definition/0,,sid9_gci212684,00.html]
1181    
1182    o look how Horde looks with the current 'chora'-stylesheet...
1183    
1184    # --- bookmark, 2003-03-13 00:43
1185    
1186    o dus2html:
1187      o aggregate outputs from dus to one or more linked html page(s)
1188      o run in interval (cron!)
1189    
1190    o server- & tool-consolidation (moonX, toolX)
1191    
1192    o phpDocumentIndex should get different "modes":
1193      o ViewMode (normal, twingled, etc.)
1194      o ParsedMode (into rss-chunks by diff2rss)
1195      o RevisionMode (per file, if .ext == ',v')
1196      
1197    o generic framework to build a backend for a web-based ProductBuilder (like alternate's PC-Builder and many others)
1198      o Zwischensumme
1199    
1200    o komplan.com - Homepage!!!
1201    
1202    o translate selfhtml?
1203    
1204    o search::[php & rss & Dublin Core]
1205    
1206    o "what happens if 'dispatchmail' prints something to the console" or ...
1207      "check out how to let dispatchmail append stuff to /var/log/syslog"
1208    
1209    x modified routing of netsaint-mails:
1210      netsaint@h1.service.netfrag.org -> service@h1.service.netfrag.org -> ...
1211        'service' is a local posix account...
1212        'service' is aliased to 'alert@service.netfrag.org, \service' in /etc/mail/aliases on h1.service.netfrag.org
1213      ... -> SMTP -> MX:quepasa.netfrag.org ->
1214        'alert' is a virtual user mapped to local posix user 'gateway' in /etc/mail/virtusertable on quepasa.netfrag.org
1215        'gateway' is also a service-account - purpose: forward/copy smtp-mail to other locations
1216      -> nfo.support@news.netfrag.org
1217        now the mail gets posted to 'nfo.support' at news.netfrag.org (via nntp)
1218    
1219    o why does quepasa.netfrag.org crash regularly?
1220    
1221    o first time tried 'intop' on h1.service.netfrag.org - nice tool! (just knew the web-frontend before!)
1222      -- intop 0.0.1 (Sep 24 2001) -- The first interactive ntop program.
1223      (C) Copyright 2000 L. Deri and R. Carbone. All rights reserved.
1224    
1225    o refactor 'estats' on h1.service.netfrag.org
1226      o new design
1227      o new location
1228        o http://h1.service.netfrag.org/~service/estats/ -> http://h1.service.netfrag.org/caesar/
1229      o new names for services / new hierarchy
1230        o Alerts
1231          o news.netfrag.org/nfo.support
1232        o Accounting
1233          o bw_accounting
1234        o DiskSpaceUsage (dus2html)  [new]
1235        o IOGraph
1236        o Monitoring
1237          o Service
1238            o netsaint
1239            o nsa
1240            o monit
1241          o Network
1242            o ip-connection-state (via ippl)
1243            o ip-port-state (via snmpwalk)
1244        o Backup
1245          o netfrag.org/backup/
1246          o bacula
1247        o Logs
1248          o news.netfrag.org/nfo.support
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